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Smart move, develop housing in a flood plain, and what could eventually turn out to be a toxic waste site! Let's not make the same mistake as Bonnieview Farms, those people will NEVER be able to sell their homes. TEST, TEST, TEST, and RETEST the soil before any new ground is broken to build any new housing!

Posted by Anonymous on January 17, 2007 1:26 PM

"The devil we know may be better than the one we don't". Has this "neighbor" taken a good look at this site lately? It is an abomination! Almost anything would be an improvement. However, I do believe that the site in question has major contamination problems and agree with the writer of the previous comment that a lot of testing should be done before anything else is done there.

Posted by Anonymous on January 18, 2007 10:21 AM

How would you like 400 homesowners driving past your door evry day?

At least the junkyard is quiet.

Posted by Anonymous on January 18, 2007 10:38 AM

How about the ERG trucks day and night? A group of seniors will not impact on Bloomfield Ave.'s highly traveled road. The impact will be minimal.

Posted by Anonymous on January 18, 2007 1:06 PM

i feel that a senior housing would be much better to look at than a junk yard. also how much traffic could their be with senior housing? give us a break and give us something better to look at then a bunch of junk cars and trucks piled up.

Posted by Anonymous on January 19, 2007 6:22 AM

To the previous poster, as much as I would agree anything would be better to look at. See, we have a perfect example in Montville Township already with BonnieView Farms, those homes will never sell because of the soil contamination issues there. So, my question is would you purchase a residence at the GI Auto Site if built? Let's learn from previous mistakes and be smarter.....

Posted by Anonymous on January 19, 2007 7:59 AM

The bottom line here is that "Morris County's fastest growing community" should not have this disaster area in it. It just has to go!

Posted by Anonymous on January 19, 2007 9:24 AM

Maybe it's time to SLOW down "Morris County's fastest growing community"!

Have a more prudent and structured approach, let's not make the same mistakes as BonnieView.

Posted by Anonymous on January 19, 2007 10:00 AM

GI Auto has been a junk yard since at least the 1940's. The proposed method to clean up the site is to throw some dirt on top of the contaminated soil/ groundwater and then build. If the project is going to go forward, the developer needs to be kept honest. A detailed, scientifically sound extent of soil and groundwater contamination investigation needs to be done. Once that is done and properly peer reviewed areas of concern on the site can be correctly and safely addressed. This will ensure the safety of future residents and protect the value of the homes they bought. Anything less would be nothing more than a criminal act.

Posted by Anonymous on January 19, 2007 11:40 AM

Previous post is correct. The proposal is to "cap" the site with 48" of fill so that when they excavate the necessary 42" for footings they will not permiate the "cap". They refer to this as a "clean-up"?????

Posted by Anonymous on January 19, 2007 12:18 PM

Just to correct the record, the houses at Bonnieview are reselling for more than the owners paid for them (before the contamination issue was revealed).

Posted by Anonymous on January 19, 2007 1:57 PM

200, let alone 400 units, is way too much for such a small amount of buildable area.

We don't want 4 story buildings either.

They're using the fact that it is contaminated and an eyesore to blackmail us into approving their small city.

Posted by Anonymous on January 19, 2007 2:50 PM

Poster of "Just to correct the record, the houses at Bonnieview are reselling for more than the owners paid for them (before the contamination issue was revealed)."

Could you please provide a Block and Lot number of 1 single property that has done so since the contamination was disclosed.

Posted by Anonymous on January 22, 2007 9:25 AM

I did a quick search about Bonnieview and it seems #4, which is listed and under contract, was purchased for $950,729. The list price is $1,100,000. Wont know that selling price until it closes.

#19 is still on the market for $1,275,000 and was purchased for $734,362.

Posted by Ron Soussa on January 26, 2007 3:05 PM

Logically, the land "must" be toxic after so many years as a junkyard. To clean up any toxic areas, wouldn't it take many years to clean it up and pronounce it "safe"? I would think so.

Why not clean it up and let it go back to a natural state. It is really a flood plain and swamp.

Seems to me that people will try and build every place no matter what the cost to our environment and society. A shame....

Posted by Anonymous on January 26, 2007 3:47 PM

SAVE THE JUNKYARD!!! I think you people are over-reacting. It's pretty much "out of sight, out of mind" for 99.9% of the Montville population. C'mon, it's not as if it's located in the middle of a 7-figure housing complex - it's in a relatively industrial area along-side a highway. Given that the facility has been there over 50 years, anyone who bought a house nearby knew what the situation was when they moved in.
SAVE THE JUNKYARD!!!

Posted by Anonymous on February 2, 2007 11:30 AM

I would be happy to see the Junkyard gone also. I just do not see any reason to BUILD, BUILD, BUILD in an area where the TOXINS of many, many years have been deposited into the ground. If they MUST BUILD, BUILD, BUILD there - it would take MANY YEARS and MANY TESTS to make certain it is clean and a HEALTHY place for anyone to live. Would YOU want to live right ON TOP of this area?

Let the site go NATURAL....A CLEAN SWAMP & FLOOD BASIN..

Posted by Anonymous on February 2, 2007 3:24 PM

TO THE ANONYMOUS JERK WHO SAID SAVE TEH JUNKYARD, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN THERE WAY BEFORE THE JUNKYARD WAS BUILT AND OUT OF SITE IT ISN'T ALONG WITH THE NOISE AND THE GARBAGE THEY DROP ALONG BLOOMFIELD AVE WHEN THE LEAVE THE YARD, CAR PARTS AND GLASS FALLING OFF OF THERE TRUCKS GOING TO YET ANOTHER LOCATION. WE HAVE PUT UP WITH ALOT OF "JUNK" OVER THE YEARS, MY HUSBAND REMEBERS WHEN YOU WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO SWIM IN THE RIVER DOWN BEFORE THERE WAS A JUNKYARD. TO HAVE IT GO BACK TO ITS NATURAL HABITAT WOULD BE MUCH NICER THAN A CEMETARY OF JUNK CARS AND TRUCKS AND THE CONSTANT TRAFFIC AND PARKING OF PEOPLE LOOKING TO FIX THEIR CARS FROM THOSE RELICS AT THE JUNKYARD.

Posted by Anonymous on February 7, 2007 7:19 AM

Actually, the previous post is correct in that the safest solution for that site would be for it to go natural. My husband also remembers ice skating on that pond in the winter. However, I feel that there is just too much greed in this town to let that happen, unfortuantely.

Posted by Anonymous on February 7, 2007 4:34 PM

It has too much value as a junkyard, let alone the 400 age restricted units they want to do.

The property owners aren't going to just give it away.

The "Rt. 46 Corridor Study" which our planner prepared in 2001 concluded that the site should be used for office space, but there isn't much of a market for that now.

Do you think Montville should buy it with Open Space funds?

Posted by Ron Soussa on February 7, 2007 5:02 PM

If there is no market for office space, why are they building two offices on the property where the Pine Brook Lumber yard used to be? One is almost completed and the other is being built as we speak. Also if it takes buying the property for open space, then I say yes, let Montville purchase it and be done with that horrible eyesore they call a business and be done with it! Montville has money to purchase other properties on the other side of town,and decorate for holidays down Changebridge Rd. but when it comes to "lower Pine Brook" as it has be labled there is nothing our town wants to do but close their eyes or look the other way, except when it is election time and then the politicans are knocking on our doors for support. How about they get off their butts and do something for our community for a change!

Posted by Anonymous on February 8, 2007 6:25 AM

I also agree that Montville should purchase the land for Open Space. Clean it up and let nature take its course!

Posted by Anonymous on February 8, 2007 8:52 AM

I think your all freakin nuts.. Both are retarded. the junkyard is stupid and horrible. illegals getting parts to fix there illegal cars.. and getting rid of it and putting old ppl down there is retarded as well. if anything. trash the entire site, plant some F-up trees, and call it a day. This town has turned to shit anyways.. fastest growing pie of crap is all is now... and its all because of us :o)

Posted by Anonymous on February 8, 2007 9:31 AM

With the exception to the previous anonymous post (why be so sour on life?), I feel the best solution is as folks here seem to think -- Have the town buy up this land, clean it up and let it go back to a natural setting.

Think of the benefits to all with a little cleaner environment and maybe even a pleasant view!

Posted by Anonymous on February 8, 2007 11:51 AM

Buy the land? Grand idea. How to pay for it? If bought as public lands the taxpayers(we)pay, and it will be millions and millions. I went to one of the meetings. Costs for cleanup are very high. The owner is trying to recoup cleanup costs and then make his profit. With no profit, no clean up. Town cannot take it over without cleanup. So how much are you willing to have taxes go up for this? Otherwise a ratable, helps taxes (maybe).

Posted by Anonymous on February 8, 2007 1:02 PM

Let's face it, the taxes will be going up as usual - wouldn't mind if some of those $ go toward a cleaner environment.

Posted by Anonymous on February 8, 2007 2:58 PM

We are already be taxed up the wasu why not put some of those tax dollars toward a clean enviroment?

Posted by Anonymous on February 9, 2007 6:10 AM

Actually about $2 million per year goes into support for the open space we currently have but the purchase of this property would break the bank. Then it would have to be cleaned up by Montville Township and you would have to compensate the owners for their business which is currently profitable. The State has the jurisdiction over the clean up not the Township so we would be at the mercy of the NJ DEP which from my experience holds Municipalities to a much higher standard than developers. It is not fair but it has been their history. The only way this property gets improved is by the owner having a use that is profitable enough to do the cleanup and change the use. As far as any future contamination the State would have to give the owner a clean bill of health before any approval to go ahead by the Township could be given. The only other thing that could happen is that the owner abandon the property and that is highly unprobable as long as they can make a profit on it.

Posted by Dan Grant on February 9, 2007 9:41 AM

ERG is shut down. The junkyard is pretty quiet now.

Leave things alone and DO NOT build a little city there!

Posted by Anonymous on February 9, 2007 10:22 AM

Dan wrote...
"The only way this property gets improved is by the owner having a use that is profitable enough to do the cleanup and change the use."

Ah, how nice to see a rational thought. I'm sure these same people who are recommending that the site be returned to "natural" wouldn't dream of approving the measure if they saw what the financial impact would be to take on such a measure - it would likely be a 4-figure hit for every taxpayer. Mr. CAPSLOCK, are you prepared to personally write a $5000 check to make the junkyard go away? Didn't think so.

I could be wrong, but I think the project is doomed and G.I. Auto Salvage will still be there 20 years from now. Wonder if it will be eligible for historic landmark status by then?

Posted by Anonymous on February 9, 2007 10:31 AM

Found this elsewhere on-line - did anything happen at the planning board mtg in January?

"Rezoning requests are pending for the owners of G.I. Auto, who wish to build 400 age-restricted housing units on the Old Bloomfield Avenue site, which is zoned industrial.

Pine Brook-based Hook Mountain Road Associates also submitted a rezoning request to build 27 age-restricted housing units in the industrial area.

The request is scheduled to be heard by the planning board near the end of January."

Posted by Anonymous on February 9, 2007 10:44 AM

Millions for a dog park and nothing to clean up a dump.

Pine Brook gets screwed again.

Posted by Anonymous on February 9, 2007 11:07 AM

I hope this works okay, as I'm rather new at this computer stuff. I've lived in the area since the 40's, and am very aware of the junkyard, going back to the early 50's when there was a lawsuit involving the town and the junkyard.

I actually have and maintain very fond memories of the junkyard. I think it was about 1955 when a young man (now my husband), and I used to spend some "quality time" at the facility - it was our secret little get-away!

Every now and then I visit G.I.'s and it really brings back such wonderful memories. I'd feel sad if it no longer existed. I think you're all over-reacting about how terrible you think it is.

Posted by MaryAnn on February 9, 2007 4:11 PM

ERG HAS NOT GO OUT OF BUSINESS, THEY HAVE MOVED TO ANOTHER LOCATION IN FAIRFIELD. THEY ARE STILL A PART OF GI AND ARE STILL THE SAME OWNERS. MR GRANT DOESN'T CARE WHAT GOES ON DOWN HERE AND NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN THIS AREA. AS ONE PERSON SAID IT IS OUT OF SITE OF THE OTHER PART OF TOWN SO WHY SHOULD IT BOTHER ANYONE WHAT GOES ON DOWN IN THE PINE BROOK SECTION OF MONTVILLE. I TRAVEL DOWN CHANGEBRIDGE ROAD AND SEE THAT WASTE OF A DOG PARK, THAT THE TOWN USED MONEY FOR, NO ONE IS USING IT, THE MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR MORE IMPORTANT THINGS THAN A PLACE FOR A DOG TO GO AND PLAY, WHAT HAPPENED TO PEOPLE JUST WALKING THEIR DOGS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHY DO YOU NEED A PLACE FOR THEM TO PLAY, YOU HAVE A BACKYARD!

Posted by Anonymous on February 10, 2007 9:16 AM

Maryann, It is nice to have fond memories, but think of what the junkyard looked like in 1955, it is now 2007 and things have changed in 52 years. It is alot bigger than it was and now we much, much more polution and many more wrecks in that cemetary of a junkyard.

Posted by Anonymous on February 10, 2007 10:27 AM

Dear MR. CAPSLOCK!

See that button on your keyboard called "Caps lock"? Please push it - just once, is all I ask. ;)

Comparing the cost of the dog park to the suggested purchase of the GI property is like comparing the cost of a gallon of milk to the cost of a house.

Again I ask, are you ready to write a check for $5000, along with every other property owner in Montville, to turn the GI property into open space?

Posted by Anonymous on February 10, 2007 12:40 PM

Anonymous at 9:16. Here we go again mixing your personal misinformation under an anonymous posting. The fact is that I was the only elected official who went to court to testify against GI AUTO/EGR when Montville Township won the case that removed EGR from the site. To say that I don't care what happens there because I don't live there is simply untrue. I was always concerned about what effected every area of the Township and took every issue as it came. No one else on the Township Committee would go to court for what ever reason but I did.

Posted by Dan Grant on February 11, 2007 9:35 AM

Mr Grant, My apologies to you, but you have to understand the ERG is still operating at GI,you may have tought you got rid of them, the demolitian part may have moved to fairfield, but the trash part is still there. The trash trucks still go in and out every day at all times of the day even at night. Mr Avila is still operating his business of GI/ERG.

Posted by Anonymous on February 11, 2007 9:50 AM

Thank you. Enforcement of the Court Order is another matter. The Township Committee got the tools needed through the courts, now they need to enforce that verdict. In my opinion it is not ok to allow the ERG operation to continue while other options on the property are explored. The junk yard use is long standing and that can't be stopped but they also were required to move that operation back to it's original site. That hasn't happened either but those issues belong to the current Township Committee.

Posted by Dan Grant on February 11, 2007 10:45 AM

Dan, in all your years as an elected official, did you ever fail to renew their annual junkyard license?

Or did you just pretend to care about Pine Brook?

Posted by Anonymous on February 11, 2007 4:24 PM

Anonymous 4:24 PM

Your question about licensing is a good one, but if you're going to take cheap shot why not have the courage to use your real name?

Posted by Ron Soussa on February 11, 2007 4:44 PM

Anonymous said...
"Dan, in all your years as an elected official, did you ever fail to renew their annual junkyard license?"

Not only a cheap shot, but an ignorant cheap shot. A little research on the lawsuit filed against the town in the early 50's (which the town lost), will point to the answer of why the town cannot simply tell G.I.'s to go away.

Posted by Anonymous on February 11, 2007 5:03 PM

Anonymous 5:03p.m.
Please enlighten us of the lawsuit of 1955.

Posted by Anonymous on February 12, 2007 6:38 AM

I had the "pleasure - not" of living right next to GI and moved as soon as we could. Pine Brook (or as the town council likes to say - LOWER Pine Brook) is always forgotten, Dan Grant - you only fought GI because you wanted to be re-elected, it wasn't until we showed pictures of you using ERG dumpsters at your home (which you sold to your son) & showed they were taking garbage that was NOT construction waste did you start moving your position. If it had been good for your personal gain/election you would have spoken up FOR GI ... you were/are always on the fence. That area is horrible and unsafe for housing. Montville will go broke fighting all the lawsuits of people who buy there and the end up with diseases, death, etc from the toxic waste (over 50 years of it), building foundations crumbling over time due to lack of proper support. I could go on and on with all of the dangers and reasons why it should not happen. All that money will be spent, occupany levels will be low and they next thing you know it will become state housing for homeless, rehabilitated criminals .... etc!

Posted by Anonymous on February 12, 2007 8:12 AM

Anonymous, Like all political statements yours is pretty hysterical and false. You must have some fear that I might try for election. Sure my son (I was out of office at the time)used an EGR dumpster 11 years ago and so did the Montville Township Board of Education and a the daughter and son in law of a prominent Republican leader who has claimed to be an opponent of them. That was however prior to any action by the Township against them for that operation. I have never referred to "Lower Pine Brook". The only member of the Township Committee that I ever heard use that term was Steve Moscone.

If defending the Township is "Political" then so be it. Good government makes for good politics. The fact remains that I was the only Township Official to testify in open court against them and it is a case we won.

Why don't you add your real name to your post so your reason for the attack can be made clear. While your are at it you can explain why if Pine Brook has been ignored and the Governing Body has always been in the control of Republicans you choose to attack the one Elected official that did take a stand and followed through. I also carried that district in 4 out of 5 successful elections..

Posted by Dan Grant on February 12, 2007 10:08 AM

Ron Soussa,

It us not a cheap shot. All Grant had to do was hold up the junkyard license until they cleaned up their illegal mess. But he never did because he never cared about Pine Brook.

Are you and your partner O'Dowd going to pave over this part of Montville too?

Posted by Anonymous on February 12, 2007 1:56 PM

Posted by Anonymous on February 12, 2007 8:12 AM...

"I had the "pleasure - not" of living right next to GI and moved as soon as we could."
"That area is horrible and unsafe for housing."

Okay "Anon", so you seem to be suggesting that neither the junkyard nor the housing complex is acceptable. Do you have a viable solution to propose, or do you prefer to just rant and carry on, making unfounded and meaningless accusations?

Posted by John on February 12, 2007 3:23 PM

I agree with Save The Junkyard. I can still get hard to find parts there for my "orphan" vehicles. Putting senior housing on such toxic land is insane, unless you figure that seniors are that much closer to dying anyway. Save the junkyard! And save the seniors, too!

Posted by Anonymous on February 13, 2007 12:32 AM

anonymous at 12:32a.m. Sure save the junkyard for your benefit to find parts for your antique car. WOW that is a real good reason to save that dump! How about the people who live in that area and have to look at the pile of sh-- everyday? To see those trucks piled high with smashed cars and have them drop stuff of of them as the drive up Bloomfield Ave and then the residents try to get rid of that crap in their garbage. Our town council say they are trying to do something about it, but do they enforce the law? There is never a police car down in that area and if there is, it is only to get coffee at the new Dunkin Donut, or driving thru Macdonalds for food. I don't see the police stop the people who buy parts at GI and start fixing their cars on the street. How about they earn the salary that we help give them from our tax dollars.

Posted by Anonymous on February 13, 2007 6:16 AM

Hi- I just got directed over to this blog. I happen to agree that "Save the Junkyard and the Seniors!" is the best option once everything is rationally considered.

With the rare exception of someone who has lived in the area for over 50 years, the junkyard was a pre-existing condition and your house was priced accordingly. It's unfair to now expect a "golden parachute" to be thrown your way.

To suggest that the police don't patrol that area is incorrect. On several occasions I see them in the immediate area of Old Bloomfield and John Street.

Lastly, a curiosity question... When did Bloomfield Ave last past through what is now the G.I. property and over the bridge that is still there at the entrance to G.I.'s?

Posted by Jerry on February 13, 2007 10:21 AM

Jerry, the only time you will see a police car on Bloomfield Ave and John Street is when Officer Bauchle goes to his mother's house for lunch or dinner, any other time there is never a police car patrolling the area. As for Bloomfield Ave, it goes directly to GI and his vehicles have to use that to leave the yard and travel up Bloomfield Ave to Route 80, 287, etc.

Posted by Anonymous on February 13, 2007 2:35 PM

SAVE THE JUNKYARD.. To the people that live next to the junkyard... this is your own fault you new it was there BEFORE you moved there. so if you do not like it leave. I also use the junkyard myself. The site is a toxic area why would you want to put people in danger of living there. It is sad that everyone is so whiney now adays. The junkyard is there that is why this is a free country. You complains so quickly forget

Posted by Anonymous on February 13, 2007 2:59 PM

Anonymous said...
"Jerry, the only time you will see a police car on Bloomfield Ave and John Street is when Officer Bauchle goes to his mother's house for lunch or dinner, any other time there is never a police car patrolling the area. As for Bloomfield Ave, it goes directly to GI and his vehicles have to use that to leave the yard and travel up Bloomfield Ave to Route 80, 287, etc."

Well "anon", you can think and speak as you like, but I've seen several different officers in the area. I've seen them writing tickets to folks parked illegally on John St, so there's a source of township revenue that goes away should the junkyard go away.

As to Old Bloomfield ave, I'm asking about how it USED to be routed THROUGH what is now the GI property. I'm assuming this pre-dates even Rt.46, when Bloomfield Ave was the main east-west road in the area.

Posted by Jerry on February 13, 2007 3:13 PM

Hi- I just got directed over to this blog. I happen to agree that "Save the Junkyard and the Seniors!" is the best option once everything is rationally considered.

With the rare exception of someone who has lived in the area for over 50 years, the junkyard was a pre-existing condition and your house was priced accordingly. It's unfair to now expect a "golden parachute" to be thrown your way.

To suggest that the police don't patrol that area is incorrect. On several occasions I see them in the immediate area of Old Bloomfield and John Street.

Lastly, a curiosity question... When did Bloomfield Ave last past through what is now the G.I. property and over the bridge that is still there at the entrance to G.I.'s?

see here is a good guy here... he knows that is going on in reality...
i Think the junkyard should stay

Posted by Anonymous on February 13, 2007 3:41 PM

It would cost Montville a TON of money to buy it, and then another TON to clean it. The only way that property gets cleaned up is if the owners are able to make a profit by developing it with something else.

And John is right. If you don't want the junkyard or housing, what is your solution, Anonymous?

And for the record, even though I would be honored if they asked me, I am not partners with the O'Dowds.

Posted by Ron Soussa on February 13, 2007 8:42 PM

Yes, I can see it now..."K. Hovnanian invites you to live the good life in your adult community townhome at Four Wheezins in bucolic Pine Brook, NJ. Just seconds from Rt 46 and minutes from Rt 80, Four Wheezins at Pine Brook will take you back to days gone by as you fish for two-headed trout in a babbling brook (of motor oil and antifreeze). Relax on your balcony and enjoy the refreshing breeze created by tractor-trailers speeding along Rt46 at all hours of the night. And if you listen closely, you can almost hear grandpa's Model T, chugging and wheezing along historic Old Bloomfield Ave. No wait, that's actually grandpa chugging and wheezing because he's got lung cancer from living just 48" above a toxic dump! Act now, and you can live out your increasingly shorter lives at Four Wheezins at Pine Brook starting at $749,900 for a one bedroom unit. Special Bonus: instead of a car in every garage, at Four Wheezins, there's a car UNDER every garage."
I'll be 65 in about 8 years. Think it'll be ready by then?

Posted by Anonymous on February 14, 2007 1:23 AM

Excellent! Please submit your resume and salary requirements at once!

Posted by K. Hovnanian Marketing Dept on February 14, 2007 12:28 PM

looks like they have a new spokesman already congrats on the new job...

There will be the new underground G.I. auto salvage

Posted by Anonymous on February 14, 2007 1:15 PM

So y'all gave up on this thread? Does that mean I get to keep my junkyard? :O)

Posted by Anonymous on February 18, 2007 11:11 AM

Just plant more trees along the borders and
forget about it!

Posted by Anonymous on February 21, 2007 3:56 PM

my family has lived here for many years, years before there was a junkyard, and as a person who lives in the area, we don't want to just forget about it! something needs to be done!for people who don't live in this section of montville township, you idiots have no idea what it is like to see that eyesore everyday. to see those trucks go in and out of the junkyard dropping their debris as they go up bloomfield ave. trees are not going to help, there were trees planted there in the 60's and look at them now, when they got to big for GI and the now defunct Pine Brook Junkyard, the owners of both yards chopped the tops off the trees so people could see their yards and still have patrons. we have to address this situation.

Posted by Anonymous on February 22, 2007 6:30 AM

I agree, something should be done to clean up the mess there. I cannot understand why anyone would ever build there. It is a swamp/flood basin. Even if they cleaned up all the toxins (that would take many years to do it correctly), where would all the water go after the land was filled in and built up?
Would make more sense (forget about the $, please) and let it go back to a natural environment.

Posted by Anonymous on February 22, 2007 11:31 AM

anonymous wrote...
"trees are not going to help, there were trees planted there in the 60's and look at them now, when they got to big for GI and the now defunct Pine Brook Junkyard, the owners of both yards chopped the tops off the trees so people could see their yards and still have patrons."

Were there two junkyards in the area at one point in time, or was Pine Brook Junkyard just the name before the current owners purchased the business and changed the name?

I'm also still curious about when Bloomfied Ave ceased to go THROUGH what is now the G.I. property. I am assuming by what the bridge at the entrance looks like, that it was once part of Bloomfied Ave rather than the END of what is now called OLD Bloomfield Ave.

Posted by Jerry on February 27, 2007 12:19 PM

Anonymous said...
"Would make more sense (forget about the $, please) and let it go back to a natural environment."

Please tell me how you "forget about" the $$$ and let it go natural. What is your plan? Do you just say, "Please Mr. GI owner, close down your business and abandon your property worth several million dollars. And oh by the way, could you clean it up before abandoning it? We're not going to pay you for that either, but I'm sure you'd be thrilled to do that out of the kindness of your heart."

Perhaps this proposal could be called "Fantasy Island". :)

Posted by Jerry on February 27, 2007 12:33 PM

Yes - guess you are right...Why in the world would anyone want to give up $$$ when the mentality seems to be "ME, ME, ME"..."I WANT THE ENTIRE PIE, NOT JUST A PIECE OF IT"...

Still, Anonymous has a point there about the water (it is a swamp). Where will it go when they decide to fill in that area and build?

Maybe the flooding will just blend in with Wayne, Lincoln Park and Fairfield.

Time to buy a boat!

Posted by Anonymous on February 27, 2007 3:51 PM

anonymous wrote...
"Yes - guess you are right...Why in the world would anyone want to give up $$$ when the mentality seems to be "ME, ME, ME"..."I WANT THE ENTIRE PIE, NOT JUST A PIECE OF IT"..."

So I suppose in your eyes it's okay that the owner of the junkyard is left with nothing but a pile of debt, and thus no money to feed and cloth his family? That would be okay by you? WHO's thinking only about "ME, ME, ME" now???

As for the flood plain, I imagine it would remain just as it exists today, somewhat of a moat around the property.

Posted by Jerry on February 27, 2007 9:30 PM

Citizens of Montville - Just resign yourselves to the fact that if anyone wants to build anything in any area of the township, they will. It is only a matter of time.

I just hope that they insist the toxins are completely removed and develop in the best manner possible for quality life and environmental issues.

I personally would not buy there and would not encourage anyone I know to purchase and live in such a place.

Posted by Anonymous on February 28, 2007 4:07 PM

ron, what is this i hear that G.I owners now may be in the talks with Lowes or Walmart? They are looking to turn over a higher doller than they would get with the Senior community.

Posted by Anonymous on March 27, 2007 6:56 AM

Believe me when I say, you can easily expect more traffic from a 'seniors' community than from the general population. Since most of them have nothing but time on their hands, they'll hop in their cars several times a day just to get out and do a 'little' shopping which may consist of a quart of milk or a newspaper - in other words one item per trip.

Posted by Anonymous on April 10, 2007 11:00 AM

The land that Penick used to be on at Taylortown Road has been empty for many years. It cannot be built on for many years to come as it was so polluted. Has the state checked on the Junkyard site? This is one thing they are pretty strict about, and about building on a flood plain.
anonymous

Posted by Anonymous on June 11, 2007 9:54 PM