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Monday, March 10, 2008
Teachers' salaries shouldn't be a sacred cow
Posted by Ron Soussa at 10:15 PM
 
Telling those people who cannot afford their taxes to move is not the answer - Taxpayers are beginning to demonstrate their indignation to New Jersey's ignominious reputation of having the highest real estate tax rate in the nation. Although in most towns, more than half of the total tax is a school tax , no such indignation seems to apply to school budgets.

Benefits remain far above those within the private sector and private sector workers suffer with stagnated or even decreasing incomes. The time has come to correct this situation of inordinate school teacher raises. See Daily Record.

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Are you sick of high paid teachers?

Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or
10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them
for what they do - baby sit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage. That's right. Let's give
them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly
planning time, or any time they spend before or after school.

That would be $19.50 a day (7:45to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch
and plan -- that equals 6 1/2 hours). Each parent should pay $19.50 a
day for these teachers to baby-sit their children.

Now how many do they teach in day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 =
$585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I
am not going to pay them for any vacations.
LET'S SEE.... That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My
calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's
degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be
fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X
30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.

Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here!
There sure is! The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is
$50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours
= $1.42 per hour per student --a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they
even EDUCATE your kids!)

WHAT A DEAL....
Posted by Blogger Lisa on March 12, 2008 12:34 PM
 
 
Two important issues come to mind. The first is the lack of competition in Morris County between the public and private sector
education providers. Charter Schools with non union professional staffs will provide much needed competition. The second issue is the widespread disdain among the local school unions for incentive pay for math and
science teachers. Teacher pay for specialities in oversupply should be reduced. These funds would then be available to enhance compensation for
shortage category teachers.
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 12, 2008 1:51 PM
 
 
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337014,00.html

You can't even fire bad teachers.
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 12, 2008 3:05 PM
 
 
Teachers are educators. They are not baby sitters... They help build our childrens' future. If nothing else, we should at least pay some respect..they certainly deserve it!
A Montville Township resident
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 12, 2008 6:03 PM
 
 
Isn't anyone concerned about the administrators who get buyouts from one district and collect a salary from another at the same time?

Teachers put up with poorly disciplined kids 6 l/2 hours a day. They stay late to attend meetings about the unruly kids, then do plans and correct homework, only sometime in their free periods, otherwise at home.

They burn out early, take an early retirement and run out of money because of the high cost of living.

Great life!

I do believe that benefits should be more in line with the private sector for all public employees, not just teachers.
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 13, 2008 12:21 PM
 
 
I think most teachers do what they do because they love their jobs. It is not right to bash them here or anywhere for that matter. They are represented by the most powerful union in the country. Unfortunately, with the cost benefits rising so rapidly, they will eventually have to contribute to the cost like the rest of us who also freely chose our professions. The sooner, the better....for the children.
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 13, 2008 6:52 PM
 
 
I trust "Lisa" above is a teacher and simply trying to be outrageous and encourage argument. Maybe she should teach in her house and earn the big bucks. Good luck.
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 13, 2008 11:00 PM
 
 
Honestly, Lisa, I understand the point you're trying to make, but it doesn't hold up because you didn't account for the cost of running the school. There are staff members who don't teach that need to be paid (janitors, administrators, nurses, librarians, etc.) There's a school structure that costs quite a lot, and maintenance, and materials like books and paper, computers, and electricity. The list goes on. Deduct that from your salary and see how much is left.

I think teachers deserve a fair wage and fair benefits. They should also be subject to at least the same standards of performance of other workers, and perhaps higher standards, considering what's at stake. Reward the good ones, offer training to all, and, ultimately, get rid of those that aren't pulling their weight.
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 14, 2008 2:22 PM
 
 
Your comments are good but flawed. It's called tenure.
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 14, 2008 6:48 PM
 
 
Who are these mythical teachers who aren't pulling their weight.
If that is true then the Administration should find out before tenure is granted. I admit my kids went through the School system many years ago and out side of a very very few, I saw mostly hard working and caring teachers.
Administration is another matter and the Board of Education still worse. Tenure protects teachers from the very kind of politically motivated Board we have had for quite some time now. Would anyone want to put their livelyhood and reputation in the hands of this Board without the protection of Tenure?
Posted by Anonymous Dan Grant on March 15, 2008 2:12 PM
 
 
Lisa, Are you crazy? I was a teacher for over 7 years and I worked my butt off for very little pay. I loved what I did and I would never, ever complain about my taxes due to the teacher's "high salaries". Guess what? Most teachers work two jobs to pay their rent or mortgage AND have to work in the summer to live in this state. Please educate yourself to the life of a teacher before you bash us on this or any other site. We are not baby sitters. Most of us go through an intense college education and on to achieve master's degrees in our field. We teach YOUR children!
Montville township schools are among the best in the state, perhaps the country. They don't get that way from teachers who are just baby sitting.

Get real!
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 22, 2008 9:03 PM
 
 
Ok, sorry Lisa. I re-read your comment and understood your real message. Thanks! Hopefully others read our comments and see that it is not the teachers driving up the taxes......
Posted by Anonymous Anonymous on March 22, 2008 9:05 PM
 
 
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